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Post by Mariaew on Feb 3, 2005 20:30:06 GMT
I would like to get help on trying to get my mother out of this web that started with Ms. Duval. She answered her letter and now monthly gets money debited from her checking account. Along with that she has been swormed with letters from other"psyhics" that swear they have answers for her and can guarantee she will win the lottery. she pays everyone of them! I have gone so far as to drive to her house and talk to her mailperson to hold those letters and checks until I can get to her. I can not convince her that they are scams. Since I have power of attorney for her and my father (which my father is convinced they are scams just can't get her to believe it)I would really appreciate any help you can suggest to get my mother out of this ring. I also want to know who to contact to ask for refunds from Ms. Duval. I am so desperate! Unfortunately my mother believes that Ms. Duval is great because her name is Maria, makes me want to change my name!
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Post by Paul s on Feb 3, 2005 21:59:46 GMT
I have same problem with the scam mail, with a power of attorney you can get the post office to redirect all mail to your place, then deal with it accordingly. As for the bank withdrawls, I have had to open a new bank account, transfer all bills to it and have the bank disallow any electronic transfers. Alzheimer's sure sucks
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Post by 'Guest' on Feb 5, 2005 9:55:38 GMT
Hello NEEDED! Your Maria Duval, alias the Maria Duval in the www.cicap.org/piemonte/vs/12/radar_umano.htm page, is the very same Maria Duval that is discussed here. Here the general opinion seems to be that our and your Maria Duval is just a person who tries to milk good money from superstitious, goodnatured and too trusting people, and that she has no magical or spiritual abilities whatsoever, or have any telepathic influence on other people neither. If you have some experiences to the contrary, you may tell them here if it pleases you. I wish you well nameless postman
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Post by T on Feb 5, 2005 16:10:25 GMT
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Post by T on Feb 5, 2005 16:46:50 GMT
Me again i have just noticed that i recived a reply from the nameless postman an i am in total shock an my mind has just gone crazy.... i cant belive it at all....I think that i had better explain my self to you all. unlike you all on here my case i think is diffrent than yours as i have never sent anything off to the maria. i wish i had had them dealings with her rather than what this story is.. i will apolagise now if it is long and for my spelling.... my story starts not with maria( bear with me it will fit together) but with a man i met from my real mum at the time i met him i had broken out of a rough relationship and the man was smashing my windows and threatin me and as i did not no anyone or had no where to move to this man stayed with me( not as a boyfreind) anyway he had beentheir a day i think and he started saying that he was frendly with a woman aparently she phoned him an him her an she was a clairvoyant while on the phone to her she told me to throw out an elephant oniment as it had bad fibes because i was so funrable becuse of my present situation i did this and want to no more about this woman at the time it was just stuff about my ex would he stop harasing mr etc, but with in a week i was been told stuff that i didnt no what to think about my real mum i was fosterd at 3yr an new a bit about y it not nice an didnt no if it was true but this maia told the man all was true and even worse had happend to me as mum watch on my real dad had died an she told me it was him that was watching over me... after this she had my mobile number an i hers and we excanged texts but by this time she was saying that me an this man were ment to be together even that my son had broken his fall an saved his life he had fell of some building 7/8yrs befoe but bare in mind at the time my son was only 3 but like a fool they explained all this stuff about how it happend an i belived i didnt want to be with this guy i was only 22 he 44 so texts started to por in it be good for you you have no one else ho has or will love you like he do it wat your son want it y your son be naughty cus he want y an him be together an loads of other stuff she also said that my son was seen spirts in his room and that her an my son talked at night through mind i just didnt no what to think say or do i was alone only him her an my son. she also got me doing a blessing as i had fell pregnant after my son was born an i did not keep(it was a choice i had to make although i didnt want 2 ) sit on my knees doing a cross in the air and even had to name it. an they told me i was gooing 2 be sent to jail as i had not paid my tv licence an my son would be taken off me.my mind was so mush i belived altough i had paid it. i could tell you alot lot more but i think you get the gist of what i went through luckly i became strong and made me think this is just making me crazy i have to get out i was looking over my shouldr all the time froz if i saw a copper i was crakin up. so i just moved house and left him in my house. i did recive a letter from maria but nothing where you sent of just saying that she is he to help me and point me in the right way. i have got over 3000 texts which i wrote down as she sent them to though. i am sorry if i have bored you all as i know this is long but felt i had to explain and at long last i can stop thinking iv done wrong its been 3yr since iv herd anything but i did have 2yrs of her textin so THANKYOU for confiming it was her....
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Post by sceptic on Feb 7, 2005 14:35:48 GMT
I've tried to understand what T has meant and tidy up her English to something easier to read and understand. Any additonal comments I have made are in {curly brackets}.
Me again! I have just noticed that I received a reply from the nameless postman and I am in total shock and my mind had just gone crazy...
I can't believe it at all... I think that I had better explain myself to you all. Unlike you all on here, my case, I thnk, is different than your's as I have never sent anything off to Maria. I wish I had had those dealings with her rather than what this story is. I will apologise now if it is long and for my spelling...
My story starts not with Maria (bear with me it will fit together) but with a man I met from my real mum. At the time I met him I had broken out of a rough relationship and my ex was smashing my windows and threatening me; and as I did not know anyone or have anywhere to move to, this man stayed with me (not as a boyfriend). Anyway, he had been there a day (I think) when he started saying that he was friendly with a woman: apparently she had phoned him and told him that she was a clairvoyant. Whilst on the phone to her, she told me to throw out an elephant ornament was it had bad vibes. Because I was so vulnerable (because of my present situation) I did this, and wanted to know more about this woman. At the time it was just stuff about my ex - would he stop harassing me, etc - but within a week I was being told stuff that I didn't know what to think about, about my real mum (I was fostered at 3 yrs old and knew a bit about it). It was not nice and I didn't know if it was true, but Maria told the man it all was, and even worse, had happened to me as mum watched on. My real dad had died and she told me that he was watching over me...
After this she had my mobile number and I her's, and we exchanged texts, but by this time she was saying that I and this man were meant to be together, and even that my son had broken his fall and saved his life - he had fallen off some building 7 or 8 years earlier; but bear in mind that my son was only 3 {when she told me, ie her son was minus 4/5 (ie non-existant) when he saved the bloke's fall}, but they explained all this stuff about how it happened and how I believed I didn't want to be with this guy (as I was only 22 and he was 44), and like a fool I believed them. So texts started to pour in: "It'll be good for you, for you will have no one else who has loved, or will love, you like he does;" "It's what your son wants - it's why he has been so naughty; because he wants you and him to be together," and loads of other stuff. She also said that my son has seen spirits in his room, and that she and my son talked at night through mind. I just didn't know what to think, say or do. I was all alone except for the man, her and my son. She also got me doing a blessing (as I had fallen pregnant after my aon was born and I did not want to keep it - it was a choice I had to make even though I didn't want to): sit on my knees doing a cross in the air, and even had to name it. And they told me I was going to be sent to jail as I had not paid my TV licence and my son would be taken from me. I was in such a state that I believed it although I had paid it.
I could tell you a lot lot more but I think you get the gist of what I went through. Luckily I became strong and began to think that this is just making me crazy; I have to get out; I was looking over my shoulder all the time; I froze if I was a copper; I was cracking up. So I just moved house and left the man in my {old?} house. I did received a letter from Maria but nothing where you send off, one just saying that she is here to help me and point me in the right direction.
I have got over 3000 texts which I wrote down as she sent them through to me. I am sorry if I have bored you all as I know this is long, but I felt I had to explain and at long last I can stop thinking I've done wrong. It's been 3 years since I've heard anything, but I did have 2 years of her texting.
So THANK YOU for confirming it was her.
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Post by needed on Feb 9, 2005 11:38:05 GMT
I am sorry if i have caused confushion to you all, As i know that my story is diffrent than yours. I am not lieing to any of you it is just confusing to write an to understand.(even to myself when i re read it) An belive it or not i am English just one that is hopeless at spelling and wording so much in my head and unable to make sence of it when writen down. i will try and correct what i miss lead you to belive.
My real mum and dad were not together when i was born. Maria Duval told me that my real mum would watch over as other men (not my real dad) did things to me. My real dad passed away about 15years ago (i think) an maria told me that he was watching over me (gaurdin angel) The man i refer to as having the fall, fell from a building some 7/8 years before i had even met him But it was Maria Duval that was telling me that my son who was not even born or concived the 7/8 years before as he was only 3years old at the time i new this man and the dealings with Maria( i know it is confusing think how i felt i belived all this for 2years) an that was'nt a feel sorry for me thing i just though i would let you know what my dealing with Maria was.. And like a fool means i felt a fool/idiot now for beliving all that was said to me by Maria Duval and beliving it for 2years....
Please do not think i am a fake as i am not it took me a lot to explain my self to you all an i know it is confusing to read and to understand as it is to me an it was me that went though it even to this day i can not understand what was to be gained out of it all. and the reason for it all. if their is anything that you need to know our explained more i will be happy to explain but i am not here to make a joke of this site as i am very very greatfull that i have found it. i am just like you all that has been messed about with Maria Duval our anyone else But just in a diffrent dealing.
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Post by somebody on Feb 12, 2005 8:24:31 GMT
Hello T!
(four calls) times (about two years or 750 days) equals (3000 texts). What an irritation you must have been!
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Post by needed on Feb 12, 2005 10:06:33 GMT
Hello Somebody,
just to let you know that it was HER texing me, not me to her.
Best wishes T
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Post by Maria Duvals Customer on Feb 14, 2005 13:44:20 GMT
WELL back on topic, I finally received the MARIA DUVAL PACKAGE THAT I WAS TELLING YOU ALL I HAD NOT YET GOTTREN AFTER LIKE 2 MONTHS. IT WAS A GOOD DEAL NOW THAT I GOT IT.
I GOT A SACRED RING OF PROPERITY WHICH I LOST UNFORTUNATLY, AND I ALSO GOT MY PRECISE GUIDE TO OPPURUNITIES IN 2005. WHAT THIS GUIDE DOES IT TELL YOU WHAT TO LOOK FOR AT CERTAIN DATES. THIS LADY MARIA IS REMARKABLY PSYCHIC BECAUSE THE THINGS SHE SAID COULD HAVE IN NO WAY BEEN GUESSES. SHE HAD SO MUCH STUFF RIGHT THAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. FOR INSTANCE I GOT INTO A CAR WRECK WHICH SHE PREDICITED I WAS IN DANGER FOR AT THAT TIME. I ALSO GOT INTO ANOTHER WRECK IN THE SAME TIME FRAME, SO WHEN SHE SAID I WAS MORE PRONE TO ACCEDENTS, SHE WASN'T JOKING!
ALSO I BELIEVE WHY YOUR FRIEND THINKS SHE WAS RIPPED OR HAD WORSE LUCK SINCE GETTING HER PACKAGE WAS BECAUSE OF HER OWN DISBELIEF. I MEAN YOU PROBABLY DID NOT ENCOURAGE HER AT ALL WITH YOUR CLOSE MINDED VIEWS.
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Post by zed on Feb 26, 2005 8:55:40 GMT
Hello T!
Seems I need to apologize my standard assumption of the normal roles in a customer/provider relationship, where you as the customer need to ask mrs Duval as the provider for a goods, before it is delivered to you! Normally you also have to pay the goods. Was that the case?
Another point is that many authorities seem to think that there is no Maria Duval in the Maria Duval business. Kevin has made available some of the texts that the Duval BUSINESS sends to customers. Have you looked those texts and did you get the same material from the PERSON Duval?
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Post by zed on Jul 27, 2005 10:32:41 GMT
In New Zeeland, Consumer Online complained to Advertising Standards Complaints Board ASCB after Sunday News and Timaru Herald published large advertisements promoting Maria Duval. The ASCB "was unanimously of the view that the advertisement would create unrealistic expectations of life-changing benefits," and therefore "there was no doubt it would be likely to mislead and abuse the trust of the consumer." Following the complaint, Swiss ad agency Infogest suspended all Maria Duval print ads in New Zealand. Infogest SA "represents Ms Duval's customer care, fulfilment and logistics requirements worldwide." I searched the swiss Zefix, as suggested here somewhere. They tell this about Infogest: established 14.7.1993, address Champ-Colin 18, Nyon. Boss is Beda Mattle who lives in Saint-Prex, auditor is Dubey Gestion in Estavayer-le-Lac. Bernadette Chevallaz and Stéphane Geiser are mentioned with Infogest too. There is a www.infogest.ch site even. The firm handles all aspects of direct marketing services, not only to Maria Duval, and employs over 60 people, phone +41 (22) 994 5005, fax +41 (22) 994 5040, email bma@infogest.ch. Once again the tracks of a dubious business lead to Switzerland, why might that be... By the way, are there any scam names that use a Nyon address? The various Adverticing Standards Complaint Boards are obwiously the wrong place to put any serious complaints, when all they do is a timid request to stop the ads please. These boards are often established by the direct merketing firms themselves, and in my opinion, have more interest in the reputation of the branch than the wellbeing of the customers. The justice of the deceived customers is not satisfied by anything less than the real and tough authorities, who after a complaint, will arrange the returning of people's money, intercept the scam offers and customers' orders, persecute the fraud firms in court, publish informative and warning adds in major papers and in TV (a regular weekly scam TV would be wonderfull!), in short ruin the business possibilities of the fraud firms and their people!
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Post by Kevin Harrington on Jan 30, 2006 13:02:54 GMT
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Post by Kevin Harrington on Jan 5, 2007 0:25:59 GMT
The Maria Duval scam is again being advertised in the UK, in the News of the World, Sunday magazine. Sometime in November 2006. There is now a thread about astrology, and other types of scam, in the Money Saving Expert website message board. forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=253992
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Post by matthew on Oct 4, 2007 11:29:03 GMT
I've found two things online that may be of interest. First is what looks like an extensive article in Swedish about Maria Duval and the business - I don't know if anyone has already come across this - but I could find no way online of translating it as most online translation tools don't do Swedish-English. www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1060&a=51219 Plus, there's a new video on YouTube about the Marie Callas operation run from Singapore. It seems that this is the same business as Maria Duval. There's also a new website www.mariecallas.net Here's the link to the video news report: www.youtube.com/watch?v=82MU-iI9Oig I hope this will help some people.
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