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Post by Kevin Harrington on Feb 23, 2009 0:13:13 GMT
My partner seems to have shaken off the scam companies who targeted her for about ten years.
Would those guests who have received a mailshot in 2009 or 2010, please reply to this message, so that I can identify which companies and names are still active?
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Post by Matt on Feb 26, 2009 8:20:59 GMT
Hello Kevin...I too have been wondering what has happened to these once-frequent mailings. I haven't received any at all in 2009 but received plenty last year. Do you think maybe the economic crisis is having an effect on the companies involved? I hope so!
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Post by Kevin Harrington on Feb 26, 2009 21:36:16 GMT
You could be right there, Matt. Perhaps bulk mail costs have increased, or that there are so many websites reporting about astrology scams, together with the tv programmes mentioning it. so it's no longer a good source of income for them.
However, the truth about pyramid scams is still not getting through, people are still getting caught by these get-rich-quick ideas, which work for a few at the top, but everyone else loses out.
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Post by Yvonne Anne on Jul 24, 2009 9:16:41 GMT
I have a shop in Glastonbury and undertake readings, just out of curiosity I had a letter from Maria Sarah Kalistea knowing it was fake i decided to reply and see what was going on. The reply was so disgusting such as all gloom and doom unless i had further magical work done on my life. The talisman inverted comma's is cheap and nasty with no energy attached just the pouch is probalbly worth more. Vulnerable people with troubles in their lives do not need promises of £8,000.00 out of a private bank account or the added stress of being told their lives are negative because of a curse or whatever. It is a responsible job, and therefore i wish this to be known to as many people as possible.
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Post by A freind on Jul 30, 2009 6:34:27 GMT
The people who are scamming my mom's friend are called Aliette - Astro service.
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Post by Hanna on Aug 11, 2009 3:32:58 GMT
To all wondering where "psychic" post mail scam went : USA is newest target . I have part of collection on my desk.It started about year ago. Most of it have different addresess then about 5 years ago (former vave of it). Some letters are entertaining and have references to popular literature on various topics like law of atraction or history of astrology. Other are licenced franchise atached to known from stage or TV mediums or psychics. All are scams. It would be great to find if there are real people with "gift". Anybody met some? Today I got letter from Angela Saint Pierre referencing to Swiss and France and send from Belgium. hae actual trade address is: P.O.Box2175-1934 EMC Brucargo and for reply:C.P.239, CH-1257 La-Croix.De Rozon
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Post by Kevin Harrington on Aug 11, 2009 20:41:47 GMT
Is "Angela" Saint Pierre the same scam as "Agnes" Saint Pierre? Almost certainly it is. According to the website visitor information I have, the vast majority of guest visitors are in North America, or northern Europe.
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Post by sheila on Sept 1, 2009 0:46:33 GMT
Hi my name is sheila, and i wanted to say thanks for letting me know i was about to be scamed, the name of the company is HAPLIN DATA SERVICES it said i won 12million but i only need to send 10 dollars for processing fee , thanks again
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Post by Kevin Harrington on Sept 1, 2009 20:05:00 GMT
Sheila, glad to be of service.
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Post by Florence on Feb 10, 2011 5:10:25 GMT
We have been receiving the mailings in Canada from Budapest but return address is CC International, Mulligen, Switzerland. Sometimes as many as 20 per day from different people, but with very similar messages. Names: Pia Andersen Stan Roberts Carl Olsen Shauna Jensen Helios Jane MacGregor Smaranda Aliette Angela Stanislas Bolgarov Jacques de Saint Armand Guy D'orso and numerous others, all asking for money. How do we get our name off the mailing list? This has been going on for far too long-how long do we have to be harassed by these people?
Some of the Reply addresses are: LIP, Postbus 69, Wattweg 7, 4600 AA Bergen Op Zoom, Holland The Netherlands ACM, PO Box 69, 6971 Hard,Austria Aliette, c/o Astro-Service, Postfach 1579, 84447 Muhldorf am Inn,Germany
Many different people but the same reply addresses.
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Post by Sceptic not logged in on Aug 11, 2011 10:01:00 GMT
[Would log in but I've forgotten my password, changed email address and the computer I had the details on suffered a hard disk crash 8:(]
We've finally managed to get my deceased mother off most mailing lists . In the last year it has just been one or two of the lottery scams that have bothered to send her anything.
Four possibilities for the lack of post:
1) Not responding 2) Returning unopened mark "Deceased, return to sender", "Unknown at address, return to sender 3) Opening mail, sending letter that recipient is deceased in enclosed envelope to sender. 4) Opening mail, sending letter that recipient is deceased and will charge £10,000 for every letter now received for use of deceased's name and address to peddle their wares with a strict 30 day payment period after which a 4% of outstanding balance per day late payment penalty will be imposed; also warning that legal proceeding may be instigated to recover owed monies. Receipt of further letters peddling wares shows agreement to these terms.
1) was effective in a few cases 2) was slightly more effective, though I suspect that the sender carrier (the scammers' friend in Southall) just chucked the RTSes. 3) was slightly more effective (instigated by my new wife) 4) was only needed for one persistent scammer (Marie Callas) who even needed a reminder invoice (along with reminder of the terms and conditions) with 4 dated entries for received letters and a few late payment penalties before they stopped...if anything ever does come from them again I will respond with a new invoice including all the outstanding late penalty payments due ^_^
One tried a final demand for a service provided (see Meodotes), however, when faced with a reply that (a) it was an unsolicited service, (b) the goods supplied were unfit for purpose (and on recipient of means to return them they would be returned), and (c) that a fraud had taken place (either against them by someone unknown or against us by them) we haven't heard back.
The fact that so many of them tried it on after my mother died showed how many are just scammers with a simple method - they only charge £20-40 which is a small sum and for the person who is conned it is easier, less embarrassing, probably cheaper(!) to let it go than to try and recover it; however with enough respondents, those £20-40s soon add up to quite a nice little earner.
The thing to remember is to read the SMALL print as well as the big print. In it will be all sorts of "get outs" like saying it is "for entertainment purposes only" or that "results depend upon the ``belief'' of the recipient" (that last one appearing in the small print for a slimming product which basically meant the product was a placebo at best).
The best I can suggest is to send the letters back unopened marked "Addressee unknown at this address" at first. For those persistent after that, you'll have to spend a bit on stamps, but send back using the enclosed envelope the reply slip covered with Addresses unknown at address (I think I may have started not bothering with stamps at first, and then underpaid). For those still persistent, write a polite letter setting out YOUR terms and conditions for processing their mail peddling their wares (including large costs; make it clear how those costs will be [implicitly] agreed by them).
It seems that once you start costing them more money (with the potential risk of large costs) they tend to remove your address from their mailings.
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You also note that there are lots of different people at the same box - another hint of what they really are. If you check the letters carefully you may find under pictures something like "not contractual" which basically means that the photo is more than likely not the "person" that is named in the letter even though you may think it is a picture of them (like the photos in newspapers above a column showing the author) - it is a very clear indication that the person more than likely does NOT exist and that the name is actually a "trading" name of the company (sic) behind the letter.
My second job after leaving university was as the computer department for a [now defunct] mail order retail company. There was one "holding" company and many different "trading" companies - some of which were due to take overs, others due to creation by the company - which actually sold the same stock (from one warehouse) at different prices (supposedly to reflect the different "expertise" you got from the different trading arms).
These scammers are just the same - they create fictional people as the trading arm "who" sends you the letter and get the replies (which are probably thrown away except for the cheques). However, they themselves probably don't know to whom they have actually sent from each "person"; they probably don't even care as most targets for their mail are vulnerable people who would not spot such similarities - there is usually a short reply window for the letters and one would be sent back before the next was dealt with by the recipient, reducing the possibility of remembering the return address.
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There was a documentary recently on TV about our scammers' carrier friend in Southall and the Royal Mail (sorry, can't remember when it was). It seems to be the suggestion that basically the Royal Mail needs the junk^H^H^H^Hbulk mailings to provide income to survive.
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Post by we on Aug 31, 2011 17:53:49 GMT
We have been receiving the mailings in Canada from Budapest but return address is CC International, Mulligen, Switzerland. Sometimes as many as 20 per day from different people, but with very similar messages. Names: Pia Andersen Stan Roberts Carl Olsen Shauna Jensen Helios Jane MacGregor Smaranda Aliette Angela Stanislas Bolgarov Jacques de Saint Armand Guy D'orso and numerous others, all asking for money. How do we get our name off the mailing list? This has been going on for far too long-how long do we have to be harassed by these people? Some of the Reply addresses are: LIP, Postbus 69, Wattweg 7, 4600 AA Bergen Op Zoom, Holland The Netherlands ACM, PO Box 69, 6971 Hard,Austria Aliette, c/o Astro-Service, Postfach 1579, 84447 Muhldorf am Inn,Germany Many different people but the same reply addresses.
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Post by wagemas on Oct 10, 2011 14:53:42 GMT
You could be right there, Matt. Perhaps bulk mail costs have increased, or that there are so many websites reporting about astrology scams, together with the tv programmes mentioning it. so it's no longer a good source of income for them. However, the truth about pyramid scams is still not getting through, people are still getting caught by these get-rich-quick ideas, which work for a few at the top, but everyone else loses out.
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Post by jon david on Mar 22, 2012 1:26:06 GMT
We have been receiving the mailings in Canada from Budapest but return address is CC International, Mulligen, Switzerland. Sometimes as many as 20 per day from different people, but with very similar messages. Names: Pia Andersen Stan Roberts Carl Olsen Shauna Jensen Helios Jane MacGregor Smaranda Aliette Angela Stanislas Bolgarov Jacques de Saint Armand Guy D'orso and numerous others, all asking for money. How do we get our name off the mailing list? This has been going on for far too long-how long do we have to be harassed by these people? Some of the Reply addresses are: LIP, Postbus 69, Wattweg 7, 4600 AA Bergen Op Zoom, Holland The Netherlands ACM, PO Box 69, 6971 Hard,Austria Aliette, c/o Astro-Service, Postfach 1579, 84447 Muhldorf am Inn,Germany Many different people but the same reply addresses.
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Post by RUTHENA on Jan 14, 2013 21:45:05 GMT
IS CHRIS@VOYANCE,ALSO A SCAM, HE USES P.O. BOX 2175-1934 EMC BRUCARGO
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